I was chopping veggies and making salad dressing yesterday morning and suddenly I looked up and realized I had to leave the house in ten minutes! Thankfully, you all know I am low maintenance, and was out the door in 8 minutes. Can I just be thankful that my hair is long enough to put back in a pony tail? š But since I was spending so much time (okay, really it was only 10-15 minutes) on my lunch I quickly grabbed a Pommegrante Chobani and one of the oranges my MIL gave me. I knew I had granola in my desk (the only thing that now resides there, thank you very much!) so yet another breakfast parfait. I’ll explain the *** below. By the way, I never thought citrus would work in a parfait – I was so wrong – it was delicious!
- 338 calories, 3.28 fat, 62 carbs, 6.2 fiber and 18.25 protein ***
- technically 7 WW points
- total calorie points – 9 WW points
It was another hot one in Chicagoland yesterday, 81 when I left to run. I ended up walking at a pretty good pace for 50 minutes, enough to sweat and raise my heart rate! I saw lots of green!
And you can never get enough blue sky pics, right?
I have Smokin Chestnut to thank for my Mango Chicken Salad with Spicy Ginger Dressing. I brought this to a co-worker to share, and he said “I’d Pay to Eat That in a Restaurant.” Best words a cook likes to hear, right?
I did adapt it somewhat, based on what I had on hand. I also reduced the amount of oil. I am doing the dressing stats separately, since I thought the dressing was enough for 4 servings. I just used a heaping tablespoon of the dressing and tossed it in a ziploc bag and the veggies were not over dressed in the least.
Spicy Ginger Dressing: (4 servings, each one is 67 calories, 6.5 fat, 1.6 carbs, .2 fiber and 2.5 protein)
- 2 teaspoons fresh grated ginger
- 1 tablespoon sriracha (yep, a tablespoon)
- 2 tablespoons balsamic vinegar (I didn’t have rice wine)
- 1 tablespoon soy sauce
- 1 tablespoon ginger pepper sauce ***
Mix well. I put this in a baby jar with a lid to bring it to work. Just a quick shake and a pour and I was good to go.
*** This is the ginger pepper sauce I used – I think Tony got it at Fresh Market or World Market – I’ll find out – its addicting!
Mango Chicken Salad (2 servings: 237 calories, 2.7 fat, 27 carbs, 5 fiber and 28 protein)
- 5 ounces grilled chicken breast
- 1 cup broccoli slaw
- 1/2 cup carrots, chopped
- 1/2 cup cucumber, chopped
- 1/2 cup peapods
- 1 chopped hot pepper (not sure what they are called – they were from my PIL) š
- 1/2 a mango, chopped
- 1 tablespoon fresh mint, chopped
- 1 tablespoon fresh basil, chopped
I had the chicken in a separate bag (leftover from last nights chicken gyros) and when it got time for lunch, I separated half the chicken and half the salad into two ziploc bags, then tossed each with a heaping tablespoon of the ginger dressing, tossed and plated. I borrowed Hannah’s tiny grater – she got it in a hot chocolate kit – it was meant to grate chocolate over cocoa, but I love using it to grate ginger and nutmeg.
I loved, loved, this salad. It was bright, the veggies were crisp, the dressing wasn’t too overpowering and the chicken was still super tender. And the hot peppers that my PIL gave me were a nice balance to the sweet mango.
I luckily was able to grill before the rain came through. Before I met Tony, I never in a million years would have grilled a chuck roast. I had always thought that cut of meat had to be cooked low and slow. I cut the roast in half, put the second half in the freezer, and simply seasoned with salt and pepper. This was relatively thick – I seared it on both sides for about 3 minutes a side, then set it on the top rack of my grill and it took about 30 minutes to get a nice medium rare.
I sliced 4 ounces of meat (eTools says 8 points?), served over chopped baby spinach, 1 cup egg noodles (5) and quick beef gravy sauce (2). This dinner was delicious – the meat was super flavorful and tender.
So if you’ve made it down this far, you are probably wondering what the hell my Calories v. WW Points conversation is all about. After annoucing that I need to step up my game and that I plan on making some changes come April 1, my dear blog friend Helen sent me a long email. She’s lost 20 pounds and reshaped her body these last few months following a Paleo diet. She is an avid runner and is into muy thai (Helen, I know I didn’t spell that right!). In any event, she reiterated in her email what I was already thinking about, and that is, calories matter.
She notes that I’ll say “1 tsp. of brown sugar is zero points” “2 cups of veggies is zero points” “3 servings of fruit is zero points!” The truth of the matter is, that Helen believes there is really no such thing as zero point food. Whether you do low carb, WW, Paleo, etc. calories do matter. So after everything into eTools:
- My total WW points for the day? 31 points.
- If I use eTools calculator using the total calories consumed (1359 calories, 39 fat, 174 carbs, 17 fiber and 93 protein)
- It is actually 36 points.
- (51% of calories from carbs, 26% from fat and 23% from protein)
Not that 5 points is going to make that much difference in a day, but let’s just say I eat my activity points, that would be 4, which would be a total of 40 points for the day, or basically 14 over my daily points of 26 for the day. I know I have my 49 flex points to take into consideration, but let’s just say this is my normal scenario, which it usually is, my 14 daily overage now is 98 extra points in a 7 day time frame, which is nearly double the 49 flex points allowed. So the fact that I have maintained this past year really isn’t so much of a mystery to me.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the WW program, I like the weekly weigh ins, the accountability, the fact that they steer you away from processed food. I just think I have to be a calorie counter first, a WW points person second.
What are your thoughts? Danica, TJ, Renee, I am especially interested in hearing what you have to say!
I am still tweaking my plan for April – so far my goals will be to eat between 1400-1500 calories, under 100 grams of carbs, limiting my bread/grain carb consumption to just one meal a day and use the rest for fruits and veggies, keeping my percentage of calories from fat around 25% and try to up the fiber. Oh, and exercise like a mo-fo! š
Oh, and Helen wants me to count points for wine – no fair! š
I came, I read this article, I conquered.
I love that sweet ginger chili sauce by The Ginger People, it’s so good! I also have their organic ginger syrup at home right now which makes a fabulous sweet gingered carrot dish as well as tastes great when added to some vodka/club soda/lime for a refreshing cocktail š
I’m constantly weighing this in my head – WW PP vs Calorie Counting. I keep finding myself wanting to do both & see what the results are.
Hi Biz! Super love this post and the well thought out comments too. I’ve never thought to use the sriracha (rooster sauce, as I call it) as an ingredient for dressing–what an incredible idea! I just love all of the comments about the WW points v. calories too. I’m not in WW, but I’m not counting calories much either–which is probably my downfall. And the comments reflect that.
š Marion
That dressing sounds Great and I could do a tbls of sriracha! Your salad looks great without the chicken for me. I’d love to know where to find that ginger sauce. Probably not anywhere near me in NJ. š
One more thing…a lot of people seem to think that WW is telling us fruits don’t ever need to be tracked. My leader tells us often that if you are eating your 5-7 SERVINGS (not as much as you want, but actual servings) of F/V per day, they don’t have to be tracked. However, if you are eating more than that, at some point the calories add up, and they have to be tracked. She is very up-front about that, so it appears that some people’s perception of what WW is now may be a little bit off.
That is actually a faulty argument. You can’t put in your information for the whole day and expect WW to spit out the same PP value as if you ate those foods individually because the formula used to figure out PP stops considering fiber once you get to a certain amount. It used to be as low as 4 g, although I don’t know what it is now. So you could eat 30 grams of fiber in a day, but if you calculate the total you ate for the day as one, instead of taking each meal individually, you only get “credit” for a small portion of that fiber. And that is why you track each item you eat individually.
WW did a TON of research before starting this program, so I can’t imagine they didn’t think about this aspect. I have found that when I work the program, it works for me. When I don’t, it doesn’t. I have spot-checked my calories in on occasion, and even when I eat five serving of fruit, I am never eating more than 1400-1500 calories, which still makes it a rather low-calorie plan. However, the tedium of counting calories is something I can’t handle doing for the rest of my life, and that is why my heart will always belong to WW.
I bet counting calories will make a difference! I do like that the pp program encourages you to choose fruit and veggies over other snacks, but perhaps it only helps so far. Good luck!
I was doing weight watchers ( in New Zealand but it’s the same propoints plan) and came to this same conclusion a month or two ago. On WW i was filling myself up with free fruit and veg (and it took a lot to fill me up) to save points for a glass or two of wine and wondering why i wasn’t losing. Now i track propoints and calories side by side and find that my diet is better and i’m losing more weight.
For me, it’s working to track both together, some low calorie foods are just crappy for you and WW has helped me to realise that. My diet it definately cleaner and less processed now.
I don’t regularly count food calories (only once in a while to make sure I’m not going overboard, which I really usually know at that point as my clothes are getting a bit tight…), but I do keep track of liquid calories every day. It’s just too easy to drink way too many calories…
Good luck with your new approach!
Have a great weekend!
Hey Biz!
Regarding the calories v. points plus..
I think that weight watchers had the best intentions when making fruits not count towards daily points. They pride themselves on being the best plan to fit the average American lifestyle.. a lifestyle that is uuuusually lacking vegetables and fruit.
That being said, I think it may hurt those who already understand the importance of whole, natural foods. People who do not eat processed products are much more likely to grab fruit or veggies for a snack.. though they may go overboard simply because they are 0 points and do not have to be tracked.
I think WW had the best intentions for the average American, but for those who read up on their nutrition (and for many people who follow weight loss/nutrition blogs) it may actually be hurting their weight loss.
Just my thoughts, but in the end every body is different and needs to find what works for them!
oh, and regarding the mention of Tablespoon on your last post.. also try Gojee and Tasting Table. Those are two of my favorite new finds!
Thanks Sarah for the heads up – I’ll have to check those out!
I had Wallene come see the cute little grater and she agreed that it is adorable – now we both want one, but what really got her attention was your salad. “OMGoodness Mom – will you make that?” Absolutely kiddo. It is Bizzy approved.
Hopefully I can find some decent [ripe] veggies and mango this weekend b/c this would make the perfect after church lunch. So easy to make ahead. Thank you for sharing Bizzy. And thank you to Smoking Chestnut for creating it. Very nice.
Have a great weekend. š
I think that part of being successful on WW or any other program is learning how to tweak it so it works for you. You’ve obviously got the WW basics worked out, maybe calorie counting will help you turn a corner. Hope so!
I have the same questions as you. I have been on WW a couple of months and the weight is slowlllllly coming off. When I track my points and calories in My Fitness Pal, I am consuming way more calories than I need to. So, I think I am going to start counting my fruits as 1 (you know, like on the old ww plan) and see if that helps. Keep up the good work!!
I like to track calories, I am not even dieting, but I like to know what I am consuming. I use the LiveStrong app on my ipad.
Your salad looks great, I need to find some of that ginger pepper sauce.
Oh and I did a total double take on that tiny grater š
Wow, that’s really interesting. Like you said, the points don’t seem all that different…but when you add them up over a week it’s quite a bit.
I love the idea of adding citrus with yogurt. I never thought about that either. YUM!
I think the old WW points system was better. I still count points (in my head) but I keep track of calories etc on Sparkpeople.
If you have to count wine, then you have to count those before bed pretzels too!
MaryBe
I am a calorie counter. I’ve never gotten the whole WW points thing. I think it’s great for someone who is starting out and clueless about what they are eating. I think you’ll see better results with calorie counting. Wine DOES have calories by the way. š
Comments wouldn’t let me check for follow up comments so I’m doing it again!